Witness by the Prosecution

MSNBC had a remarkable clip of a longer interview they'll run tonight between correspondent Richard Engle and former Ukraine prosecutor Yuri Lutsenko who replaced the corrupt one who Joe Biden pushed to have removed, Viktor Shokin. The short version of this clip: Lutsenko said 1) he re-opened the investigation that his predecessor (Shokin, who Biden helped get fired) had closed, 2) he then investigated then claims and found NO evidence of wrongdoing of Ukraine law by either Joe Biden or his son, and 3) he was contacted "about 10 times" by Rudy Giuliiani.


Far more important to this last point is that prosecutor Lutsenko didn't just say he had been contacted about 10 times by Giuliani -- but added that these contacts weren't all on this one issue but other politics, too.  To him, the way he said it came across like he thought this would diminish Giuliani's actions, not understanding that in the United States this actually made it worse.  (It wasn't that he seemed to be covering for Giuliani, but trying to put it in perspective for Americans -- but from a Ukrainian point of view, not an American one.

I believe that they will be running the full interview tonight (Friday) on NBC Nightly News.  I suspect it will be on their NBC News website.

When they ran this clip on MSNBC this morning, Engle was on-screen along with former U.S. Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul.  And after the clip, McFaul got the first question.  But before answering he said, "I just wanted to congratulate Richard on being able to track down Lutsenko" and getting him to talk.  Yes, Richard Engle is wonderful.  One of the best foreign correspondents I've seen.