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Quote of the Day

3/25/2016

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"She helped create ISIS.  Hillary Clinton could be considered a founding member of ISIS.”
-- former NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani .

In fairness, former Mayor Giuliani is right.  Hillary Clinton "could" be considered that.  Provided the person doing the considering is accepted as being wrong.  And in equal fairness, in all other matters here, the former mayor is wrong.  So, overall, his "wrong to right" quotient is pretty high.  Like 100%.  Given a margin of error of +/- 0.

It's certainly possible that since there was no actual use of the concept "9/11" that Mr. Giuliani could employ, he got befuddled.  That said, he has tended to get very twisted and befuddled when using "9/11" for pretty much everything, so I guess it can be excused, or at least understood.

The former was appearing on "Fox News" at the time (shocking, I know,  but yes, he really was...!).  And after making his outlandish charge, he was asked by host Bill O’Reilly to explain why this all made her responsible.  

Mr. Giuliani did his best.  Yes, I know that it was an uphill battle given the impossibility of the task, but at least he tried:

“By being part of an administration that withdrew from Iraq. By being part of an administration that let [former Prime Minister Nouri al-] Maliki run Iraq into the ground, so you forced the Shiites to make a choice. By not intervening in Syria at the proper time. By being part of an administration that drew 12 lines in the sand and made a joke out of it.”

Okay, let's look at the reality.  This is really easy.

First, the United States withdrew from Iraq under an agreement signed by George W. Bush.  

And second, by all accounts -- all, as in all -- ISIS was formed after Saddam Hussein was deposed, and his army had their guns taken away from them.  They reformed as dissidents, and that group became ISIS.

As I said, really easy.

And the thing is, not only does this show clearly that in No Way could Hillary Clinton be considered a "founding member of ISIS" and having "helped create ISIS" -- in fact (really), but Mr. Giuliani's own logic, it is George W. Bush who "helped create ISIS" and "could be considered a founding member of ISIS."

To be clear, George W. Bush is not a founding member of ISIS, nor can he be considered so (unless one wants to continue the Giuliani Theorem of Wrongness), although Mr. W. Bush's actions did help in creating in.  But I'm just using Rudy Giuliani's logic here.  If "logic" can be considered the right word.

Sometimes you just want to give Rudy Giuliani a big hug and say, "Yes, yes, I know you thought you were going to be president one day, and it just didn't come remotely close to happening, and so you're really sad about it and pretty bitter, but you'll be okay.  Especially if you remember the admonition of the man who can be considered the founder of your own party, Abraham Lincoln."

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt."

​Maybe that should have been the Quote of the Day...

1 Comment
Douglass Abramson
3/25/2016 09:36:10 pm

Poor Rudi, he so desperately wants to be relevant. Too bad he doesn't realize that if 911 hadn't happened he would have stopped being relevant years ago.

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