The House of Stewart

As the show writes, “You know it’s a must-listen episode when we’ve got not one, but TWO former U.S. secretaries of state as our guests. Hillary Clinton and Condoleezza Rice are here for a fascinating discussion about American power, whether spreading democracy has actually made us safer, and how our role on the world stage should look going forward. Plus, they plan a little train trip together.”

Happily, though a podcast, the show now seems to be posting an audio Zoom version of the episode, so that's what we'll go with.  And you can watch it here.