Bear with me. Trust me on this. Yesterday, in writing about Burr Tillstrom and Kukla, Fran & Ollie, I mentioned that later in his career, he did a couple of remarkable productions on stage. One of them was when his puppetry of the character Madame Ooglepuss was invited to join a serious production in Chicago of Stephen Sondheim's A Little Night Music and play the part of the Grandmother. Not only did Tillstrom take the challenge, but 'Madam Ophelia Ooglepuss' won the Jefferson Award (Chicago's version of the Tony) for Best Supporting Actress in a Musical. The other was when Tillstrom, Kukla and Ollie all appeared on Broadway in 1978 at the Morosco Theatre as part of the replacement cast in the Broadway run of the revue Side by Side By Sondheim. (I wrote that I wasn't sure which came first, but from what little research I can find, appears as if the Broadway production came first.) In response to the article, reader Douglass Abramson left a comment, almost in near-prayer that there was footage of that Broadway production. As far as I can tell, thus far there isn't, but I do keep searching. But honestly, what I most would love is to find video footage of the A Little Night Music production. And I can find next to nothing of anything about it even existing. And I wouldn't believe it was even done except for two things -- one, that many years ago I remember clearly reading about it. I know one's memory can play tricks on your, but that brings us to the other thing. Two, when the Chicago Historical Society had a 50th Anniversary tribute exhibit to Kukla, Fran & Ollie -- which was wonderfully done -- they had a lot of great memorabilia including...the actual Jefferson Award trophy. So, I absolutely know it existed. But I can't even find what theater it was at. It may have been the Goodman Theatre from something I came across, but that's just a very uncertain guess. But at least I do have proof that Tillstrom, Kukla and Ollie all really did appear in the Broadway production of Side by Side by Sondheim. Because here is the Playbill for it. Which brings us back to Mr. Abramson's hopeful plea and my first sentence above to bear with me. Every once in a while, I made a discovery which falls into the "This is a treasure" category. And today, we have one. Honestly, just having the graphic of this program is almost good enough, if only to shut down anyone who thinks the story is apocryphal. But this goes beyond just a graphic. And to be fair, I was being a little bit coy when I said that there wasn't footage of the production. In truth, no, there isn't, at least thus far that I can find. But -- and here's the great part -- there is audio! It's the sound from a live performance of a song between Nancy Dussault (who most people likely recognize as the mother on the sitcom Too Close for Comfort) and Kukla and Ollie. And even better -- and yes, this can get even better -- the song is one that they added to this particular production, but it had been written by Sondheim about a quarter of a century earlier...specifically for the Kukla, Fran & Ollie TV show!!! Yes, really. It's titled "The Two of You." And all the better, it's a wonderful song -- charming, whimsical and full of some very clever Sondheim lyrics, even then, from the mid-1950s. (Though in fairness, Sondheim wrote the lyrics to West Side Story in 1957, so he was in pretty high control of his abilities. This also shows, though, how big a fan Sondheim must have been of Kukla, Fran & Ollie to have written a song for them around the time he was about to work with Leonard Berstein. It also explains why he was fine putting a couple of puppets and their creator in a Broadway revue of his work.) In fact, here's the song selection page from that Playbill. You can see the listing in Act One for it, with a reference of who it was written for. Also fun is at the title of the page -- it notes that the producers allowed there to be new narration for this production, specifically written by Burr Tillstrom. I wish it also explained who sang what number, so we could see which songs Kukla and Ollie performed, but I'm thrilled with what we got. If I had to make a guess, one of them is likely "Little Lamb." I say that because years ago, a friend of mine, Adam Bezark, told me about seeing Tillstrom, Kukla and Ollie on stage in Chicago, and one of the memorable moments he said was Tillstrom and Kukla sitting downstage, as Kukla sang the song. I always thought that it was for a specific Tillstrom-only show, but wonder now if maybe it was a Chicago company of Side by Side by Sondheim, which I've read he appeared in. In fact, it suggested that the Chicago production came first and was what gave the producers of the long-running Broadway version the idea of bringing "the three" of them to New York.
But enough of that. Here is audio of Kukla, Nancy & Ollie, live in performance on Broadway.
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Douglass Abramson
4/16/2020 07:11:56 pm
Beautiful...and almost familiar. I wonder if I heard it on the 70s version of the CBS show or the syndicated show, when I was little?
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Robert Elisberg
4/17/2020 02:33:58 pm
See?! So, you *almost* sort of got your wish, or part of it. I didn't want to give it away.
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Douglass Abramson
4/18/2020 06:08:50 pm
ALMOST remember...maybe; but I do remember random and mostly trivial things from a freaky young age. The memories that I can't date for whatever reason are all before I turned two. How far before, I'm not sure.
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Mike Doran
10/18/2020 08:18:36 pm
How Burr Tillstrom got involved with <i>Side By Side By Sondheim</i>:
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Robert Elisberg
10/19/2020 09:02:51 am
Mike, thanks. Fascinating history, starting from a place of sadness. I am sure the subsequent production was a joy, and it remains in that category of "Things I wish I'd seen" and "If only they had cell phones back than to record with..." (or someone had the good sense to record it -- which, for all I know, someone did, and it's in a Broadway archive somewhere...)
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Vicki Solomon
4/27/2021 04:19:34 am
This is such an exciting story for me to discover...having been a huge fan of Kukla, Fran and Ollie when I was a young child, and now a worshipper of Stephen Sondheim! I am overwhelmed with joy. Thank you!
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Robert Elisberg
4/27/2021 10:08:33 pm
Vicki, thanks for your note -- and discovering the site. Come back often, if you have the time. We always like overwhelming with joy...
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Alan
3/22/2022 04:38:43 pm
Hello, Robert Elisberg. Do you have any additional information about this production of A Little Night Music? I have searched for info, using various sources including the ProQuest database of periodicals, which includes the Chicago Tribune, and I cannot find anything. Nor can I find anything about Burr Tillstrom having won the Joseph Jefferson award, including in the Chicago Tribune obituary for Tillstrom. This is surprising to me. Do you know which theatre company produced this production of A Little Night Music and in what venue it played? And do you have dates for the production or any specific documentation on Tillstrom winning the award?
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Robert Elisberg
3/23/2022 08:29:43 am
Alan, thanks for your note. And I dearly wish I had more information on all of that. I did as much research as I could, and have found nothing more. I was surprised that I even was able to come across that Playbill and the song audio (written by Sondheim, no less).
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